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INTERNET chatrooms run by Skype, the online telephone giant, have become a magnet for paedophiles and sexual predators who want to groom children as young as 10 for sex, an investigation has found.
The software, which enables users to make free phone calls and also “chat” by typing messages while online, has become the preferred method for many paedophiles to find their victims.
Other internet chat facilities have strengthened their child protection measures or closed down entirely because of concerns over internet “grooming”.
Skype, which was bought two years ago by eBay, the online auction site, for £1.3 billion and has nearly 200m users worldwide, has been accused of leaving under16s vulnerable to abuse. It was contacted last week by concerned Metropolitan police child protection officers.
During a two-week investigation, Sunday Times undercover reporters posed online as children aged between 10 and 14. They were bombarded with sexually overt messages from adult men in Britain and overseas who wanted to meet the children and asked them for pornographic images of themselves.
One, a 50-year-old professional and father of two from southern England, arranged to meet a reporter who he believed to be a girl aged 14 from West Sussex. He turned up at a railway station near to his home on Friday after arranging to take her to his home to “watch a video”.
The man, who had also said that he thought the girl’s clothing would “look great on my bedroom floor”, greeted a reporter who he believed to be the 14-year-old by draping his arm across her shoulders.
Another man, a 33-year-old supervisor for a home counties company and a father of one, attempted to get a reporter masquerading online as a 13-year-old girl to send him lewd pictures of herself and to attend a pornographic photo shoot at a friend’s “mansion”.
A third man, a 32-year-old engineer based in northeast Scotland, took delight in ordering a “13-year-old girl” to engage in a sex act online. He also told her to buy “sexy” underwear, boasted that he had just bedded a 16-year-old and became aggressive when his commands were questioned.
It is illegal for an adult to meet a child following “sexual grooming” over the internet and it is also an offence to ask a child to become involved in pornography.
The Sunday Times has decided not to identify the men after fears were expressed for their safety.
Michele Elliott, director of Kid-scape, the child protection group, said: “The Sunday Times has uncovered not only a loophole, it has uncovered where the paedophiles are going when they are being blocked at other places. What’s Skype going to do about it?
“We know that paedophiles will use anything they can to get in contact with children. There are no checks and you’ve proven that it is so brilliantly easy.”
Skype differs from many other chat facilities because it is run on a system known as “peer-to-peer”. This means individuals communicate directly with each other instead of being hosted through a central server that can be scrutinised by moderators.
It takes just a few minutes to download Skype’s free software and enter the chatroom. The only apparent warning to children is a single sentence found in an obscure corner of the site: “If your children are using Skype, educate them about the threats of communicating with strangers.”
By contrast, children using the Yahoo! chatroom, a centrally hosted service, encounter clear warnings throughout the registration procedure and, once enabled, can communicate only with others of the same age group.
A panic button alerts the service provider to abusive messaging and the chatrooms are “patrolled” by volunteers approved by Yahoo! who are known as “navigators”.
On Skype, users have only to create a “profile” with optional details of their age and then place themselves online. Other users from around the world can then send messages and call.
The profiles created by The Sunday Times, which made clear the girls’ ages and little else, proved irresistible to sexual predators.
The 50-year-old professional messaged an undercover reporter posing as a 14-year-old named Anne, asking what she liked to do at night. He asked her if she was really 14 and, when told that she was, he suggested: “Well, if you ever get up this way, I could take you clubbing.”
He then suggested a rendezvous and gave “Anne” his mobile number. In a subsequent telephone call he arranged to pick her up from the train station on Friday morning.
“I can take you home so to speak and we can sit and watch a video or something like that if you like?” he said, adding that he also had the latest James Bond film.
“How you going to work this with your mum, that’s what I want to know?” he added. When “Anne” said she did not know, he said: “What she doesn’t know, she won’t worry about.”
Later on he sent the “girl” a text saying: “See u tomorrow at station 10am. I am not going to get arrested by pc if I turn up am I?”
When the girl suggested that she did not understand the text, the man seemed reassured.
The next day he appeared at the station half an hour early, looking agitated. After approaching the person he believed to be “Anne”, he was confronted by reporters. He said he had intended to make further checks on her age after meeting her, although he did not explain how.
The man added that he had been behaving strangely lately “because of a recent bereavement” and vowed never to contact children again.
A second man, the 33-year-old supervisor, contacted “Lucy” from Cheshire whose Skype profile described her as “14 soon”, and quickly asked if she was a virgin and if she would perform various sex acts.
“So if your [sic] only 14 have you had sex before?” he asked. When “Lucy” said she had not, the man steered the conversation towards her sending him pornographic pictures of herself.
“I can help [you be a model] but I need to see your body naked,” he messaged. The man also sent her messages from his work e-mail account and texts. “Just watch out for the perverts on Skype ok?” he added.
In a subsequent telephone call he said he had a friend with “a mansion” where he could take her for a photographic session. “If you want to start doing stuff we’ll have to start thinking about arrangements, when you’re available, cause obviously you’re at school and stuff like that, so maybe a weekend thing for you?” he said.
He then suggested she send him a package of graphic pictures to his work address. “Obviously put [them] for the attention of myself yeah? Else my boss will open them probably.”
When confronted, the man, who also contacted another underage profile set up by The Sunday Times, said: “If she was 14 or not I didn’t know that. I genuinely misunderstood. I’m not interested in talking to a 14-year-old. I’ve got my own kid, do you know what I mean?”
A third man, the 32-year-old from Scotland, who spent a long time messaging “Lucy” urging her to masturbate online, said when confronted: “This isn’t going to end well, is it? I haven’t really got a defence. It was a mistake. I wouldn’t even have to think twice before doing it again. I just wouldn’t do it.”
Kurt Sauer, Skype’s chief security officer, said: “This raises some very practical issues. However, we have not found a way to address each of the issues.”
Easy connection
Skype customers make free international telephone calls to other users and message each other via the internet, writes Daniel Foggo.
Skype. masterminded five years ago by the entrepreneurs Niklas Zennström and Janus Friis, was sold for £1.3 billion in 2005 and now has more than 196m users in 200 countries. The software has been downloaded 500m times.
Although calls between computers are free, connections to landlines and mobile phones must be paid for with credits bought online.
Computer-to-computer connections, known as peer-to-peer, enable users to see each other on webcams and to key in messages that are transferred instantly.
The technology encrypts the messages, providing privacy for users and their personal details. There is no way of monitoring the chat.
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Wow, we need more educated kids and parents, not some stupid law to make everyone see what im typing to my friends.
A 40 year old from overseas contacted me and started making me uncomfortable so i just said go to hell, find someone your own age. Not that difficult to ward them off...
Will, allen, United States
Parents, we are individually responsible for the safety of our own children.
The blame falls squarely on our shoulders if we let them roam around on a messaging system that is available to any and everyone. The question is, will parents take charge of the amount of influence these people have in their childrens lives? How long until we 'inconvenience' our children by limiting or monitoring their access to these things? Better yet, how long until we 'inconvenience' ourselves for their protection?
I will never place the safety of my child in the hands of a software company or a government/lawmaker. I am held accountable, not them.
adam, Wilkes, NC
I'll briefly reiterate - parents should be the ones ultimately held responsible. But beyond that, I think a lot of problems could be solved with some open, honest dialogue with children themselves. The article explains how once registered, Yahoo users can only speak to people in the same age group, but what's stopping a teen from listing his age as 20something if his goal is to speak to older folks? Young people are a lot smarter than adults usually believe. Rather than treat them as naive victims-in-waiting, give the youth in your countries some respect, speak to them candidly about your concerns and about internet safety, and empower them. Given the right tools, the occasional chat and reminder, and some trust in their capabilities children and teens could do a fair job protecting themselves. Then we wouldn't need to point the fingers at companies like Skype.
Oren, New York, USA
Skype is not new - there has been plenty of time to iron out problems with children using the system and their security. Where are the law-makers on this?
Rose, Tunbridge Wells, Kent
I agree that printing the names of the men in question would be a breach of privacy.
But some kind of reassurance that they were not simply 'told-off' and left to their own devices would be heartening. A man soliciting attention from a 14 year old; going as far as to try and meet up with her, is not simply going to never contact children again just because he's been caught by a reporter. It's foolish to think that this will stop him in any way.
Skype should develop some kind of set up where men like this are lured to meet up with 'children' and then ambushed by police. Being told by a reporter "you've been a naughty boy, don't do it again" is, frankly, going to absolutely nothing at all. Maybe they'll have been a little scared, but I very much doubt they'll cease in their disgusting behaviour. And to think some of them have children of their own.
The Times has a duty to pass the details of these men on to the authorities.
Felicity, Oxford,
After reading this article and then the statement that "The Sunday Times has decided not to identify the men after fears were expressed for their safety". Are there any other sane adults out there who like me who couldn't give a monkeys about the safety or rights of paedophiles? Despite all their protestations and statements of "I'll never do it again", if a paper exposes this sort of activity then they should be reporting these individuals to the police. How do you know they're not abusing their own children or their friends/families children too?
yummy mummy, Surrey, UK
How about concerned people everywhere and parents in particular BOYCOTT EBAY which owns SKYPE and BOYCOTT SKYPE itself. With the money these internet companies generate they can't pay computer experts to find away around this type os abuse?!? Of course they can!!! They just don't want to spend the money or resources to do it. I, for one, am so completely disgusted that this type of online abuse is knowingly tolerated by any company. They should shut the whole thing down before they accept it one more minute. These are CHILDREN we're talking about! We as parents and human beings have the highest obligation to protect them, but shouldn't these same demands be placed upon the companies which are providing the means for predators to prey upon them?
Bethany Moore, Halifax,
The Internet is BIG: not all information is comfortable reading for adults, far less for young children. It also facilitates communication the world over...
You choose books for children carefully, so why should they have indiscriminate, unsupervised access to the Internet?
The Internet is vastly more complicated and potentially dangerous than crossing a busy road... but you take great pains of teaching that task.
Best play games on gaming consoles (e.g. PS/2, Wii) and use the computer for productive work, not play.
Ensure you supervise all the time your child spends online.
Make their computer account a limited account (not administrator) so that they cannot install unapproved software, and keep the strong password for your administrators account private - so that you are in control of what gets installed on the computer.
Provide basic mobile phones.
This way keep your child safe online, computers in the context of time saving devices - not time wasters - whilst you keep control.
R Wilson, Oxford, UK
It has always been easy to enroll responsibility on others - in this case Skype - without taking a look on what's going on at home.
Fact is that many parents do not know, what their children are doing wether out of the house or at home. On the first base I think parents themselves have to be avare of the danger lurking for their children. In the first place it is their "job" to prevent them to become a possible victim. When you do not talk to your own children they won't notice the danger.
It is not just a question of Internet-access at home, but also at school, on mobile phone or at an internet cafe.
To start things change, you have to do it first in minds and not just calling out for monitoring private chats.
Susanna, Budapest, Hungary
There's a lot that could be done. Too much to describe in a comment.
Age checks on contact - if contact is from young person to older, that should also be suspicious (possibly someone masquerading as a teen), as well as older to younger. Pop up a warning note in the chat or in the call notification window, with a link to get help about nasty messages (bullying and grooming)
Skype has APIs. I believe that some allow monitoring IM (chat). Offer teens and pre-teens a message content checker that only passes approved language. This isn't perfect, but it would catch the idiots you trapped.
Skype doesn't offer chatrooms. So there's no moderator possible. However, there *could* be moderated safe areas offered by Skype. There are paid services on Skype by authorised professionals... So professional moderators, Police vetted, could host real chat rooms.
Space limits on posting comments... there's more ways to tackle this, I think.
Jeremy Chatfield, Bedford, UK
The way to avoid this threat is called 'parenting'. Monitor your child's access on a computer connected to the Internet or you will have a 100% chance your children will be solicited. FBI Report - USA
The Chat solution used is irrelevant and Skype is no more dangerous than any other solution. Chat Rooms are responsible for 70%+ of first contact.
Don't put personal information in your profile. As a parent, I would not allow this. There are simple solutions to avoid this so use them and this won't happen to your kids.
Don't believe the FUD of articles like this - Monitor your child's access or they will become victims. Be a parent and install software to monitor your child's access. Spend $100 and avoid virtually 100% of the risk.
MG - Computer Security Consultant
Michael, Wisconsin, USA
I would say that Skype has a defenite excuse for nor implementing that, Ian, in that it is a huge invasion of privacy. Pedophiles may be bad, but they are not worth giving up all our rights for.
Lilly Avian, Reston, Va
Ian,
If people wanted their conversations monitored, they would be using Yahoo! or AOL services. The solution you offered defeats the whole purpose of Skype. While I don't support the Paedophiles who take advantage of younger people, I do support prviacy. Is that too much to ask for?
cerge, OP, USA
Well done to the Sunday times for exposing this. I dont believe for a moment that this loophole cannot be closed, especially with the technology available today.
Michael, Weston super Mare, Uk
Of course there is a way of monitoring the chat. Simply arrange for the peer software distributed to anyone whose profile indicates that they are under age to flag any messages containing words from a dictionary of triggers, and forward those messages for human inspection.
This is maybe a couple of person days of work (depending on the sophistication of the matching) and Skype have no excuse for not having done it prior to launching their service.
Ian Kemmish, Biggleswade, UK
Yes this is definitely a fact .
I am a regular user of Skype, & have found it to be great fun during the 4 months I have had it.
. However , I have been shocked at how many men do have a childs photo in their profile, I did inform Skype with names of these men, but never received a reply from them.
It was difficult to find a place to lodge my complaint on the Skype website so I was never sure my email was recieved.
I am very pleased to read someone has done something about it.
Anytime I see a childs ' pic ' now I speak to the man & insist he changes it to an adult photo.
I would like to add it was mainly non British men that I found showing children .
Maggie Millington, Brittany, France
Surely it is as much the responsibility of parents to monitor what there children, espiecally teenage children do on line. Too often the home computer is simply a way of getting them out from under foot, and as with TV, parents fail to monitor what they are doing. It is wrong to make Skype and other internet service providers scapegoats for parent who cannot be bothered to see what thier children are up to online. Another major failure of parenting is a failure to talk with thier teenagers, rather than simply dictate to them, about the risks and dangers of talking to strangers online.
Also we forget that teenagers are interested in sexual matters, and it is harmful to pretend that they don't. Parents have to be prepared to discuss these things. Otherwise, children will simply explore these thing in secret and unsupervised. Not talking to teenage children about adult matters simply makes life easier for the preditor.
Andrew Culpit, Medway,