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One of the last refuges from the mobile phone will be breached before the end of the year after the European Commission yesterday set out the rules for in-flight mobile use.
The formal agreement covers legal and technological conditions for all 27 EU nations to permit mobile use in their airspace within six months. But cries of “I'm on the plane” could be heard within weeks on some airlines: Ryanair is understood to be planning mobile use on all European flights while Air France, bmi and the Portuguese carrier TAP are running six-month trials to gauge passenger reaction.
Other airlines are not planning to allow calls. Lufthansa said yesterday that it would allow only internet usage after research showed that a large majority of passengers were opposed to the use of mobile phones.
Viviane Reding, the EU Telecommunications Commissioner, said that Brussels would not cap the cost of airborne mobile use, but that it would monitor prices. “In-flight mobile phone services can be a very interesting new service, especially for those business travellers who need to be ready to communicate wherever they are,” Ms Reding said.
She said that if consumers received hefty phone bills, the service would not succeed, adding: “I call on airlines and operators to create the right conditions on board aircraft to ensure that those who want to use in-flight communication services do not disturb other passengers.”
A spokesman for a company that is developing the technology said that a maximum of 12 calls would be possible on board the aircraft at any time, and that airlines would be more likely to manage mobile use than to establish quiet zones. The pilot would have the power to switch off the voice element while allowing texting or internet use, he added.
The EU agreement followed an announcement by Ofcom two weeks ago that flights above Britain could allow mobile technology. It would work by placing a miniature phone mast on the aircraft, which will relay mobile signals direct to a satellite rather than to the ground. This would keep the strength of each signal low enough to reduce the possibility of interference with the aircraft controls, according to the EU.
Phil Shepherd, from bmi, said that the system would be tested from June on its Heathrow-to-Moscow route. “I think this is a natural development because there are people who want it, especially businesspeople who want to use BlackBerries,” he said.
A spokesman for Ryanair said that 20 aircraft would be fitted with mobile phone technology by June and that the rest of its fleet would follow. “We will be encouraging passengers to talk to their hearts' content and charging rates in line with international roaming rates,” he said. “Our flights are all daytime flights and are never quiet places because we are constantly selling food, drinks and scratchcards anyway.”
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Jim Winkley, Shipley, Yorkshire
As a claustrophobic, aeroplanes are precarious places for me where the combination of confined space and aggressive noise triggers attacks. The use of mobiles on aeroplanes will add considerably to the liklihood of this happening, and I find the prospect truly frightening.
Jacky, Milton Keynes, UK
Just how long before we have an outbreak of phone rage on an aircraft, and the aircraft is forced to different due to a fight on board.
Clive, Dartford, Kent Uk
Airplane=bus/train, and bus/train everyone can use a mobile, (other than say the London tube in the underground bits: even if they install leaky feeder cells in the Tube its still so rickety and loud you can hardly hear yourself think let alone use a mobile).
Why bitch+moan about using a shared transport service just because someone can use a phone? You want peace and quiet, charter a bizjet.
One other thing, the Govt should put its head back up its rear end re: 'oh, and you have to make the mobile-on-the-plane cheap'..no, make it hideously expensive for voice calls as a disincentive to using it by the hoi polloi... but it might be a good idea to keep SMS cost low... use of Blackberries is silent (in the noise quotient on a flight) and the occasional 'beep' of incoming SMSs can be ignored
Azzum, Elche, Spain
I dont see what all the fuss is about. what is the difference between someone talking on the phone and someone talking to the person sitting next to them, in front of them or behind them? are you going to tell those people to shut up because you want peace and quiet? live and let live!!
brian ross, glasgow, uk
It's simple. I for one won't be flying with any airline that allows mobiles. Can't say I'm sorry not to be travelling on Ryanair.
margaret timms, Ellesmere Port, England
I agree with Paul of Poole. I pay the premium required to sit at the pointy end of the plane to make my journeys as quiet and as comfortable as possible so any attempt to allow in-flight calls will be met with open hostility if anyone dares to use a phone who is sat next to me!
Colin, Brisbane, Australia
Yet again the chance of some airlines making more money from a minority of passengers who insist on having a mobile phone stuck to their ear has out weighed the need for the rest for us from having a quite and stress free flight.
Ian Collins, Callington, Cornwall
people have got used to not being able to use their phones on planes everyone has benefited why allow it now ?
who is making money out of it someone must be or it would continue to be not allowed
richard
robinson, bangor n ireland,
Even now, despite the requests of flight staff, many people insist on turning their mobiles on before leaving the aircraft.
The average time for a passenger from aircraft taxiing to the air bridge or walkway and reaching the inside of the terminal is usually only a few minutes (what is so important that cannot wait a few minutes ?).
This demonstrates that there is a not insignificant minority of mobile phone users who would also be selfish enough to annoy other passengers by disturbing the peace during flight.
Use of mobiles should be banned from aircraft for the comfort of passengers - not encouraged for the benefit of a pathetic and selfish minority.
Howard, London, UK
The problem is, everyone hates the idea of mobile phone use on 'public' transport in theory, but when it's your phone that rings, well, it'll be OK to have a quick word now, won't it? Anyone who's ever been on the so-called quiet carriage on a train knows the feeling: people ignore the guidance not to use phones because it's not enforced. How many times have I heard the legend 'I'll have to make it quick, I'm in the quiet carriage!'. The Ryanair spokesperson has a point. Ryanair flights are designed to be a total nightmare before you even take into account disturbance from other passengers. I agree, if you don't like the idea of mobile use on planes, boycott those carriers whop permit it.
Jon, Falmouth,
I admit I am one of the first people to turn my mobile on when the plane lands, but the time in the air is peaceful with no one screaming or yelling, or as Karina from Palm Springs said, listening to someone's life story. Mobiles should not be allowed on planes for the sanity of the other travelers.
Senja, Shelburne, VT
I don't care what the supposed pro's are (if any) of inflight mobile use, flying is a trial already without someone yakking away next to you on the phone. I can already imagine the conversations - 'Hello darling, I'm at 39,000 ft, should be home in 5 hours. It's amazing, I can see clouds!'
Give me strength.
Frances Roberson, Croydon,
I can't stand the thought of having to hear the life story of a stranger surrounding me. One story I heard was where a fellow passenger at a gate talked loud enough for everyone to hear where he was going to stay. One listener, tooki note of the hotel and cancelled the guys reservations. Within 5 minutes he knew all about this person blabbing out loud.
I never use my cell in the auto. It is one place where NO ONE knows where I am and I can be at peace.
karina lok, Palm Springs,, CA
This is good news, then you can ring up from the plane and start trying to trace your bags early.
Paul Downes, Milton Keynes, Bucks
No. No. No.
Carolyn, Munich, Germany
As if we needed ANOTHER reason not to fly with BA!
Kirstie, London,
There is talk about establishing "quiet zones" on planes to cope with this terrible notion of having people yakking on cell phones. This is the wrong way round. The whole plane should be a "quiet zone" with one sound-proof booth in each section for those who wish to use their phones (or rather one booth for 250 economy passengers and 10 booths for 35 business class passengers).
James, Washington, DC,
Yet another reason not to fly Ryanair. Yes they may be cheap, but they are like the Poundshop of the high street. You may get some bargains but there sure is a lot of old tat!
Jon Hashemi, Winsford, Cheshire
It's no surprise that Ryanair is one of the first to introduce this. It'll be an absolute cash cow for them, which is all they care about.
If only Easyjet offered me an alternative....
Andy, Plymouth,
You wont be talking on your Mobile if you're sat next to me on a flight....you'll be wearing it! I get enough crap being pushed around the aircraft as it is, screaming kids, Cigarettes,drinks,Food, people who wnat to get up and down all the time....it's supposed to be relaxing not relapsing...
paul, Poole, gb
Rather have them talk to somebody on the ground than me. Would be nice change.
Stewart, Milton Keynes,
Ryanair is not British, its Irish!
Wouldn't there be some serious terrorist potential with mobile phones as tracking-location devices - surely in this day and age, even humble phone technology is also potentially a very real threat. The Madrid bombings were set off by mobile phones!!!! (Even though bags get scanned at airports - is it worth the risk when security can/could be circumnavigated??
Aaron Byrne, London,
Maybe I'm missing a critical technical link, but isnt there something about mobiles being used as trigger devices by passengers with more on their minds than business?
myles, newcastle,
The answer is easy don't use airlines that allow mobile phones. They may re-think the policy if it hurts them in the pocket.
Vic, Jersey, Channel Islands
Well done BA. Continue to be among the first to further destroy the flying experience.
John, Lincoln,
Stuff of nightmares. But who wants it? Not most passengers I suspect but rather the airlines as a new source of revenue.
As for businessmen I suspect that most breathe a sigh of relief as they are forced to switch off their phones. Now they will feel obliged to always be the end of the phone. I hope it never goes long haul or the arrival halls of airports world wide will be full of zombie like creatures renting cars!.
martyn, calvia, spain
Maybe time to invest in shares in noise reducing headphones.
This will be a nightmare. there will be more passenger rage than ever before. The last bastion of release from these things going off or noises when people receive text messages was an aircraft.
To fall asleep with your head against some stranger whilst dribble from your mouth dropped down your chin was all anyone ever looked forward to. Along being woken by some fake smiling stewardess offering you a piece of rancid dried bread roll and hard cheese that for some reason you devour as if your life depended upon it.
All gone ! Destroyed by the sound of crazy frog and some love sick moron saying " love you " forty times before putting the phone down.
Time to buy a rowing boat and buy some shares
Dave, Lincoln,
It would appear that money overrides safety? for years the airlines have told us complete lies that mobile phones could interfere with the aircraft (I wouldn't fly on one if they could) now all of a sudden the system has become safe. A pox on them. Gws
G Styles, Withyham, UK
handy at times but worse case scenario ....
do people really want to have to listen to someone with verbal diarrhoea sitting next to them droning on and on for the duration of a flight?
it is bad enough in cattle class as it is without being forced to listen to a fellow traveler's conversations.
at least on land you can usually walk away from this annoyance. not so easy on a plane.
send them to the (soundproofed) toilet to deal with the diarrhoea i say!!!
doug, nyc, ny usa